Matt was kind enough to I.M. me this link recently.
http://www.lin-mark.com/mooseintoof07.txt
It contains the results for the Mooseman of this year. I found it to be helpful in showing how fast we should be doing each discipline if we want to be in the thick of things next year. I was delighted to see that there were people finishing in the top half running 9-minute miles, and one guy (Brian Pare) even ran 10-minute miles (after my own heart, he came out of the swim in 437th place, then rode a blistering bike as the 71st fastest contestant, then slogged along in the run at an average 10:17 per mile to end up at 299th place out of 660 finishers). Congratulations Brian! I hope I can do as well. He appears to have been a biker in a past life.
An eight-minute mile doesn't seem inconceivable to me, though it certainly is at the moment. To find the first 12-minute miler (a steady 5 mph run), one must drop down to 549th place. Now, I suppose the good news is that there are still 100 people finishing behind me if I do that, but I would like to get at least into the 6 mph category by race time. Maybe I'll shoot for 21 mph on the bike. Can't do too badly if I keep up that pace.
At least this shows what we're up against. Had I done this race this year, it looks like I would place somewhere in the mid 500's to mid 600's. I'm in the mood to do better than that.
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What I like looking at is the Clydesdale Division. Down at 102 & 103 place are the first two. They finished within two tenths of second of each other. It appears for the fat boy title Richard Durgin ran down Bicycle specialist Chris Reap. So if I want to win this category next year, First of all I have to stay over 200lbs, I have to swim a sub 30 min mile pace, bike a 21 Mph pace, and maintain 7:30 mins per mile run.
Let us once again take inventory. I currently swim about a 40 min a mile pace (maybe, I haven't done a mile non stop yet), I bike near 20 mph for short distances, and my best 5k pace has been 7:54 per mile. At these paces, I used the calculator that Matt linked, I "could have done" 2:52:03. This would have put me 11th place in the Clydesdales, just behind Stephen Qualey and barely ahead of John Baxter. This also could put me in the top 250.
Wow, that was quite the dream segment.
Oh, I meant to ask, why do you think people got 2:00 minute penalties. I know you can get them for not having your helmet secured upon getting on bike or not getting off bike when required to do so, or drafting on the bike.
They should define what this person did to mess up. I don't want to make the same mistake.
Eric mentioned people were being caught drafting on the bike. I'm guessing he will chime in regarding this. Tell us where and how these officials were set up to dish out such penalties.
As for results and expectations. I'm glad to see you guys are increasing expectations instead of decreasing.
So people in my swim class.
Steve Guo International 3:07:12,
Amy Lusty International 3:46:42,
Jen Pantuso AquaBike 4:13:08,
Frank Pantuso Half Iron 5:31:45.
Steve's Time is kind of where my expectations currently lie. Of course not having been in any event that is a very speculative expectation.
I doubt I will be a clydesdale unless I really stack on some muscle. "Beefcake 4000!"
So I was reading some stuff about the Rocky Gap triathlon, and it said that Clydesdales were 210 and over. That got us to wondering if there is a standard weight for that group or if it changes from event to event. I, of course, want it to be higher, but it's important to know what that weight is for the Mooseman for those of us who may be near it (Craig). I don't think I need to worry.
Anyone have any knowledge about that?
200 + for the Mooseman. This is typically the standard, even though I don't think there is a set rule.
I mentioned before that the one in Morgantown, WV has three categories for clydesdale. XL1, XL2, & XL3. They go 185 - 199, 200 - 224, & 225+. The winner of the XL3 in 2006 went 3:09. They also broke it down by Under 39 (the guy above) and over 40 which he went 3:32. Both were solid swimmers, about 17 MPH on bike, and 10:58 and 13:19 per mile run respectively. These were the winners of these divisions.
For some more prespective the winner of the XL2 went 2:47, once again good swimmer, 19+ on bike, and 9:00 per on run.
The XL1 is even quicker. 2:31. not too many people in this division. He was an excellent swimmer. They probably just choose to compete in their age group.
So the moral may be that you if you are in the "Big Boy" division you better be a good swimmer.
Wow. I would be competitive in that XL3 category. That might just get me out to that tri next year. I looked for a few minutes on Google to see if there were some details about the weights.
Found this: USACFRF (USA Clydesdale and Filly Racing Federation) has recognized weight and age categories for Clydesdale and Athena (Filly) athletes for 15 years. Any male athlete weighing 190 pounds or more may choose to compete as a Clydesdale. Any female athlete weighing 150 pounds or more may choose to compete as an Athena.
Another site called the Clydesdales "gravitationally gifted." I like that.
I also found this: Awards go to the top (3) men in each the following weight/age group categories:
In Chicago (Accenture Triathlon),
Weight: 200-224 lbs.,
225-249 lbs. &
Over 250 lbs.
Age: 39 years & younger, 40 years & older.
Over 250! Now we're talking! Plus, the over 40 category isn't that far away either. That appears to give me what...23 extra minutes in Craig's example. Things are looking better all the time.
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